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  • Karen 8:57 am on September 8, 2010 Permalink | Reply  

    Karen and John’s 10 Worst Popular Songs with Women’s Names in the Title 

    Because turnabout is fair play.

    The Hubster had some fine contributions to this one, so I had to give credit.

    10. “Mandy” – Barry Manilow

    I’m sorry, Kenny, but I am not doing this because it is de rigeur to slam Barry. You have to admit that the lyrics are sappy crap shit dung.

    “Well you came and you gave without taking
    but I sent you away, oh Mandy
    well you kissed me and stopped me from shaking
    And I need you today, oh Mandy”

    He’s confusing love with the DTs.

    9. “Stacy’s Mom” – Fountains of Wayne

    Forget the Jerry Springer theme of the tune for a moment.

    Just look at the commercial it inspired…

    I rest my case.

    8. “Gloria” – Laura Brannigan

    I always change the first line in my mind to “Gloria, you have the runs now.” It was a coping mechanism left over from my childhood from having to HEAR THIS DAMN LONG OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER.

    MOMMY! MOMMY! MOMMY!

    7. “Delilah” – Tom Jones

    Why, why, why record this, Tom?!?!?!?

    6. “Annie’s Song” – John Denver

    Yes, Kenny, I am a soulless bitch.

    5. “Barbie Girl” – Aqua

    I know they were trying to be funny, but the product just came out annoying. It’s the Right Said Fred effect.

    4. “Mrs. Brown, You’ve Got a Lovely Daughter” – Herman’s Hermits

    You wonder why the girl broke up with the guy when he kisses up to her mom and says things like, “Girls as sharp as her are somethin’ rare.”

    3. “Iris” – The Goo Goo Dolls (Can’t get link to work, sorry.)

    I can figure out many other ways to test if I am alive besides bleeding.

    2. “God Save the Queen”

    The worst national anthem ever. Pass the Prozac, people.

    John quoted Wikipedia’s entry about national anthems, “A national anthem (also national hymn, song etc.) is a generally patriotic musical composition that evokes and eulogizes the history, traditions and struggles of its people, recognized either by a nation’s government as the official national song, or by convention through use by the people.”

    He followed up with, “If that’s the case, this country (the U.K.) is dead!”

    Check out the video. People were standing, cheering, waving flags…and then the anthem comes on. The ultimate in party pooping.

    1. “Clair” – Gilbert O’Sullivan

    John introduced me to this horrendous heap of notes this morning. This song is the musical equivalent of water torture with its drip-drip beat. But that is not the worst of it.

    It lulls you into a false sense of security. The tune starts out as standard love drivel, but it is revealed later on that he is singing about his niece!

    AAAAAAGGGHHHHHH! Freak out! Gross! Puke! Gag!

    (Huddles in fetal position and shivers in corner of the room)

    Thank you for letting me pass on my mental scarring.

     
    • Jon 5:41 pm on September 9, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      “Stacy’s Mom” sucks as a commercial, video, song, or concept. I think the thing that angered me the most is that Stacy herself was pretty hot, yet the stupid kid wanted to promote some lame pop/pseudo-punk song so he fell in love with the mom.

      “Barbie Girl” is really bad, too, but I find it funny that Mattel is actually using a take on it in their Barbie commercials.

      “Mrs. Brown” is actually decent, if for no other reason than it allows me to throw the obligatory curve ball:

    • Kenny 6:18 pm on September 9, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      I would only disagree w/ the late John Denver and the late Laura Branigan. Otherwise, I pretty much agree with everything.
      Interesting footnote (actually anecdote) about Herman’s Hermits:
      It was probably 5-6 years ago, and a Saturday Night at the ‘Ho. I was working and brought out some spaghetti to eat at the bar. Well, two men and a woman came into the bar, and sat … you guessed it … right next to me, which I’ve always found annoying unless the rest of the bar is full. One procedes to get up, and go to the jukebox. I then hear “Mrs. Brown”, followed by “Something Tells Me I’m Into Something Good”, and I was just about to say “Who the fuck is playing this Herman’s Hermits bullshit!?!?!”, but I didn’t, and it’s probably a good thing, because one of the men, I found out later, was Peter Noone. Apparently, he was playing at the Zoellner Center, but I still always thought to myself, “What kind of famous musician goes into a bar and plays his OWN SHIT?!?!?!?!?!?!?”
      That’s my Herman’s Hermits anecdote … just a fun little story!

  • Karen 4:40 pm on September 6, 2010 Permalink | Reply
    Tags: bad, men, names, pop, rock, songs   

    Karen’s 10 Worst Popular Songs with Men’s Names in the Title 

    My dear friend, Kenny, on his rogue blog listed the 20 best songs with women’s names in the title. To read and comment on this creation, I refer the Right Honourable Readers to the link here.

    Top 20 songs with a woman’s name in the title!!!

    I suggested to Kenny that he write a list of songs with men’s names. He countered that I should do it here at Le Salon Blanc. Of course, since I am a contrary little shit and would rather judge what’s bad than what’s good, I composed a list of the worst songs with men’s names in the title.

    I am sure I will be ripped to shreds for some of my choices. To that, I say, “BRING IT ON, MOFOS!”

    10. “Mickey” by Toni Basil

    The problem I have is that I know the song is horrible, believe with every bone with my body that it is horrible, and would stake my life on the horror of this composition.

    But that does not stop me from actually listening and singing along with it, if it pops up on the radio or VH1. Damn you, Toni Basil and the 40-year-old cheerleaders in the video!

    9. “Tom Sawyer” by Rush

    Overplayed on MTV the Early Years, overplayed by my brother on his boom box, overplayed whenever anyone mentions the band, Rush. Especially sad since Rush has put out much better stuff, but this is the song everyone knows with its monotone drivel and the beat that puts you to sleep. Bleah!

    8. “Rasputin” by Boney M

    The reason why I do not have this song higher on the list is the lyrics are so awful that they are marvelous.

    The chorus:

    Ra-ra-Rasputin
    Lover of the Russian queen
    There was a cat that really was gone.
    Ra-ra-Rasputin
    Russia’s greatest love machine
    It was a shame how he carried on.

    I studied Russian history in college, and I never heard the story of Rasputin put so eloquently and thoughtfully. Thank you, Boney M, for filling in the cracks of my knowledge with such poetry.

    7. “Billy, Don’t Be a Hero” by Bo Donaldson and the Heywoods or Paper Lace (Pick your poison.)

    This anti-war song was not “Waist Deep in the Deep Muddy,” was it?

    I was glad when Billy was shot.

    6. “Ben” by Michael Jackson

    A bear. A fucking bear.

    I am thoroughly convinced that having to sing this song over again turned Michael Jackson into the man he became. Child abuse, people, child abuse.

    5. “Robert DeNiro’s Waiting (Talking Italian)” by Bananarama

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDXtM8XaSKw

    This is another one of those songs that I want to slash my wrists over because I obviously like it on a subconscious level. It torments me.

    Really.

    It does.

    4. “Simon Says” by the 1910 Fruitgum Co.

    I have fantasies of the Who beating up this band backstage someplace. Keith Moon really should have given the lead singer a swirley in the men’s room.

    Hell, they only could get two people to watch their video. And judging by their dance moves, they were obviously doing it under threat of familial execution.

    3. “Louie, Louie” by the Kingsmen

    Yes, it was funny when the Delts sang it in Animal House, but that was it. It was the 1960s version of the white-bred “let’s get up and party song”. Any tune that your dad would dance to at a wedding reception deserves to be on this list.

    And I personally do not care what the real lyrics are.

    2. “Danny’s Song” by Loggins and Messina

    Kenny Loggins should be detained from making music, but that is not my beef.

    Nothing wrong with writing a song about your wife and kid, but to make it that sappy and schlocky is only good as an ipecac. Let me put it this way…don’t write a song that Anne Murray would feel compelled to cover.

    And for the worst song…

    1. “Angelo” by Brotherhood of Man

    I think very few people would argue with me about this one. “Fernando” by ABBA was bad enough, but to make a ripoff of it (and chart #1 with it in the U.K.) is absolutely inexcusable. This band also won the Eurovision song contest with their song, “Save Your Kisses for Me”. This only rests my case that nothing good ever comes from that competition.

    I dare anyone to watch the video link to the end. I double-dare you! I triple-dog-dare you!

    Please feel free to tell me what I have missed. I am sure there are some hideousness that I blocked from my brain in the name of self-preservation.

     
    • Karen 4:41 pm on September 6, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      I would apologize for not getting the Bananarama link to work, but I am really doing you a favor.

    • Lisa 5:08 pm on September 6, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      Nicely compiled list Karen…and it made me laugh :o) I really do like Danny’s Song, but do agree that it is sappy, and Mickey was way over played, but yes, I will still sing it and listen to it. Now, as far as Tom Sawyer by Rush….I do not like Rush so I am right there with you. It didn’t really matter what Rush song you put there (I know this was 10 worst songs with male names) but Rush was never a favorite.

      There might be more Top 10 best than worst 😀 I could list many that I really like…but it would definitely be matter of opinion.

    • Jon 8:30 pm on September 6, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      And some of (what I think are) the best, in no order:

      And here are some of the best (in no order):

      • Karen 8:02 am on September 7, 2010 Permalink | Reply

        I can always count on you, Jon, to throw curveballs into any thread about music.

    • Kenny 1:48 pm on September 7, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      Well, you know what a fan I am of ’70’s wuss-puss, so I have to say that I really like “Danny’s Song”, and “Billy, Don’t Be a Hero”, and I’m a male, and a music nerd, so of course I like RUSH, though I do agree that there are much better songs than “Tom Sawyer” … I won’t go on and on on what I don’t agree on, but I must say that I could not possibly agree more on the “Louie Louie” pick. There are so many music critics that give this song WAAAAYYYYYY too much credit, like it was the beginning of punk rock or something. I’ve never looked at it a much more than a barely intelligable “good time” early ’60’s tune. I mean, really, if it were such genius, why weren’t The Kingsmen anything more than one hit wonders?!?!?!?!? I’ve never agreed with the assessment of that song by so-called experts! Good and fun list, Karen!

      • Karen 5:34 pm on September 7, 2010 Permalink | Reply

        Thanks, Ken! I don’t mind if you go on and on. It’s your blog too!

        Remember, we are serious about the blog.

    • Kenny 1:56 pm on September 7, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      Also, I’d like to nominate “What’s The Frequency, Kenneth?” simply because I hate it when people say it to me!

      • Karen 5:33 pm on September 7, 2010 Permalink | Reply

        At least people aren’t beating you up while they are saying it.

        I wanted to add that to the list, but I didn’t because of my R.E.M. loving husband. The lyrics are pretentious rubbish.

  • Karen 11:15 am on July 30, 2010 Permalink | Reply  

    On the Fringe, but Just as Valid 

    I am not here to debate evolution.  What interests me is why extreme faith-based beliefs get a larger amount of weight within American society.

    In the good old U.S. of A, a person or group could put out a myriad of empirical evidence in favor of an explanation of a natural occurrence, and all you have to say is, “I have faith that you are wrong because (Insert Deity) said so.”  And Constitutionally and theoretically, both parties have equal weight in the discussion.

    What got me on this line of thinking?  A conversation with my husband and the following article:

    http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2006/08/060810-evolution.html

    To summarize, it was about the results of a survey regarding belief in evolution and a comparison among industrialized nations.  In the U.S., this survey stated that 14% of Americans thought that evolution was “definitely true” while 33% rejected the idea.  Only Turkey had more naysayers, percentage-wise.  (There is a bar graph that tells you were your country ranked.)

    The researchers attributed these results to 3 factors:

    1)  The prevalence of fundamental religious belief

    2)  Evolution is an issue that is more politicized in the States.

    3)  I am going to directly quote the article, because it puts the idea in a more diplomatic way that I would.  “But, the authors say, studies in the U.S. suggest substantial numbers of American adults are confused about some core ideas related to 20th- and 21st-century biology.”  Once again, our educational system is doing wonders for our public image.

    I think there is a historical root to this acceptance of the extreme.

    Of course, I have to bring the Constitution into the discussion.  I mean, our Founding Fathers (and, according to the Onion, Founding Creepy Uncles) did not want a state-sponsored religion and all the problems that stem from that.  With this openness and tax exemption, the power of religion in government took the back route through its congregants as officeholders and constituents.  To make a sexist analogy, it basically turned organized religion in the political arena into the stereotypical housewife that is convincing her husband that her ideas are really his.

    My husband also pointed out the nature of human beings to take shortcuts and to try to get others to pay for things.  We all do it, and the people who are in organized religion are no exception.  So what we see are fundamentalists who are trying to get their teachings into the public school systems because of evangelistic reasons AND to avoid having to fund their own schools.  Yet another back route to get what they want.

    Regardless of how it came about, it leaves us with a huge problem.  How can you come to some sort of consensus, if you can’t agree on the bases of the arguments?  Research and experimentation versus faith?  One speaks Esperanto, and the other speaks Swahili, and there are people in the middle trying to translate both when they know deep down that they don’t have THE definitive answers, despite of what they tell themselves and the world.

    Going back to my point about the faith-based counterargument, I think what really bothers me is that “(Insert Deity)” could be replaced with “the voices in my head” in the above sentence, and there is no way to gauge the credibility.  At least the standards of science are more concrete and can give us better educated guesses.  Unfortunately, with standards comes liability when science guesses wrong.  The fringes of organized religion seems to be immune from that sort of liability, so I don’t see why they should have this vicarious power without any corporeal accountability.

    Of course, the person of this kind of faith would say that he/she has to be accountable to God, but judgment does not come until you are dead.  That leaves you plenty of time to keep screwing up without earthly consequences.  Doesn’t seem right to me in the cosmic scheme.

    For more food for thought, there could also be some tangible negative consequences in trying to create a more theocratic society.

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article571206.ece

    Religion is such a personal thing.  To use it to control a society can lead to many unintended harmful effects.  Most people get that, but I worry about the ones that don’t.

     
    • John 11:31 am on July 30, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      We could take this in a different direction. Because a group of people have decided that the consumption of meat and animal products is wrong should we:
      a) Tell them that they are wrong and need to eat a cheeseburger
      b) Defend their right to make a personal choice
      c) Tell everyone else to become vegan
      d) Ignore them and hope they get better?

      Almost everyone will pick (b). However, swap this around and make it a religious subject and suddenly
      (a) and (c) become the most important. Religion is a very personal thing, and as much as I should not go around telling everyone that they should believe as I do so they should reciprocate.

      Somewhere we lost that. We think that to be religious means that unless the person down the street does exactly as we do, our live is meaningless. Why?

      As long as I get to eat my juicy steak on Shabbat… it doesn’t bother me what you believe, except that you are doing what you want to do and not what someone else is telling you to do, including me.

      p.s. Concerning evolution… doesn’t it make God a more powerful entity if he used evolution and natural disasters over 4 billion years to create us than a 1-day magic trick with a pile of dirt?

    • Kenny 2:53 pm on July 30, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      I believe that religion, like crime, is more pious when it is NOT organized, and rather based on need. At least I can explain the intent (or lack thereof) better when it is that way.
      In all seriousness, I can personally say that I think that personal religion is a wonderful thing when it resides in one’s heart, soul and mind. I consider myself to be a pretty damned intelligent individual, and yet I do believe in God. Maybe not the old man with the long beard who sits on a cloud in the sky and watches everything that everyone does … actually, I definitley don’t believe that. I believe that there is something incredibly powerful out there, and, for the most part, accept that fact that I’m not to understand it all … at least not now … and I’m sure I’m making myself look like quite the idiot with this reply, BUT it is what I believe. I also don’t happen to believe in the “vengeful” God of the Old Testament, but that is just me. Now, with a desire to see logic in things, and … perhaps somewhat ironically, a belief in God, I tend toward some (not all, but some) of the … let me try for the right word here … “ideals” brought forth by the “intelligent design” theory, which kind of goes against everything, including logic. I guess that’s just my way of saying that I don’t know … evolution sounds right to me, for the most part, but I’d like to believe that there are things that cannot be explained, and personally, I like the idea of science with God behind it pulling some imaginary strings (like Freddy Krueger in Nightmare On Elm Street, Part 3) … and having said that, I’ll shut up and brace myself to get slammed!
      LK

    • Kenny 2:55 pm on July 30, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      What my point was, essentially (and I realize that I didn’t make it very well upon rereading my post) is that religion only seems to get annoying when they try to invade other areas of life! I don’t want to hear organized religion’s view on anything that doesn’t have to do with them, and that’s the problem. These busy-bodies believe that EVERYTHING is their business!

    • Jon 4:28 pm on July 30, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      What I don’t get about people using religious beliefs to back up their arguments is that it often focuses on ideas from thousands of years ago and dispels any notion that these ideas may have evolved since then.

      Taking the most obvious example to us, the Bible: Why don’t all Christians believe the book of Mormon? How is it any less believable than the book of John? And if it’s not truly “legit”, how do we know what is? Did God conclude his teachings by telling us that he was going on radio silence for the rest of eternity? How can the Book of Genesis be taken as fact, but David Koresh discounted as a lunatic?

      If you are truly taking the Bible at it’s word, the notion that nothing changed since it was written is contradictory to what you believe in. Didn’t God admit that he was wrong to think that flooding the world would prevent the evil in mankind and proclaim he’d never do that again? If that’s the case, is there really no chance he came to the realization since the Bible went to the printers that gay marriage really isn’t that bad? If he did, how would we know? If it’s in a book somewhere, that book’s since been discounted.

      Another thing I don’t get is how the religious purists, be it any religion, don’t see the injustice committed against people born in other parts of the world. How is it fair that a person born and raised in Argentina needs to recognize Muhammed as the prophet to get to heaven? Doesn’t it suck that they didn’t get the benefit of having Muslim parents to show them the way?

  • Karen 12:46 pm on July 27, 2010 Permalink | Reply  

    My Favorite Shooting Death Scenes in Film 

    I’m an American, so I love gratuitous violence as much as any of my fellow countrymen, especially when guns are a-blazing and ketchup splatter runs rampant on the Big Screen.  Of course, I have some scenes that I prefer more than others. After all, it takes a masterful person to thin the ketchup to the right consistency.

    Just let me add a disclaimer here, there will be spoilers.  But I will start each entry with he name of the film.  If you want to see the movie, don’t read the entry.  If you read it anyway, don’t blame me for your lack of self-control.  Got it?  Good.

    The Godfather – Who did not enjoy Sonny Corleone (James Caan) getting riddled with bullets at the tollbooth?  As much as a hotheaded asswipe that he was, it only doubled the pleasure of seeing his body wriggling around as if he were being pecked to death by giant chickens.  In fact, adding killer chickens would have been the only thing that would have made the scene better.

    The Dirty Dozen –  Victor Franko (John Cassavetes), upon exclaiming that they made it, was gunned down by German fire.  The most brilliant thing about the movie, to me, was Cassavetes’s performance.  I did not realize how attached I became to his character until his untimely demise.  It only made all the more heartbreaking.

    Scarface – Have to love Tony Montana (Al Pacino).  Not only did he grab the biggest gun he could find to fend off Sosa’s men, he didn’t even take cover to reload his gun…all while spewing the colorful language that the movie is known for.  With all his bravado on the balcony, a small part of you kept thinking he was going to make it…at least some post-mortem residual firing of his neurons could have taken down about 5 more guys.

    The Wild Bunch – Look at the final shootout in context.  The slo-mo bullet hits and stylized body slumping may look trite now, but back in 1969, no one had ever seen a scene like this.  Every director who has ever filmed a shootout since has probably drawn some inspiration from what Peckinpah did in this film.  John Woo pales in comparison.

    Raiders of the Lost Ark – Think of the Arab swordsman.  He trained for years to become adept with his saber.  Now, he has a chance to use the skills he spent so much of his time cultivating.  Of course, he has to demonstrate his prowess to intimidate his opponent, Indiana Jones.  But one bullet from Indy ends all of his dreams of being the master and victorious.  My vote for the funniest shooting death on screen.

    So what scenes stand out in your mind?  Come on, let us know!

     
    • Kenny 2:46 pm on July 27, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      You got me thinking about an omission in my greatest westerns. As soon as I saw your title here, I thought “Wild Bunch” … and immediately afterward, I thought “Bonnie & Clyde”, as well.
      I agree with the Cassavetes. That scene almost makes you believe that nobody else will get killed, and then he … pardon the expression, takes it from behind. Jim Brown’s killing was a good one as well, as he was shot doing what he does, or did, best in real life!

      • Karen 3:33 pm on July 27, 2010 Permalink | Reply

        I never saw “Bonnie & Clyde,” so I will take your word for it.

        I thought of another one.

        The train station scene in The Untouchables. The tension build-up plus the baby in the pram gave the scene more depth than your average gun fight.

        • Jon 4:35 pm on July 27, 2010 Permalink

          Does “shooting” imply bullets?

          Weird Al as Rambo hitting the guy with an exploding arrow from 3 feet away in UHF has to qualify as a classic.

        • Karen 4:55 pm on July 27, 2010 Permalink

          Hey, I’ll include it. I was being guncentric, and I hang my head in shame.

          And I feel like a schmuck for forgetting the Russian roulette scene in “The Deerhunter”.

    • John 8:40 pm on July 27, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      Most of my favorite shooting scenes don’t involve blood. The end of ‘Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid’, the cemetery scene in ‘The Good. The Bad and The Ugly’. All great shootings, not much blood.

      For blood then you either have to go to Japanese or American movies. Fargo when Steve Buscemi gets shot in the jaw. The wood chipper is also quite fun. The ED-209 test in Robocop is always good for a laugh. Most of the scenes in Predator are nice additions to the list, I think they included most ways to croak.

      For blood but no guns, most Japanese Samurai movies are good. Zatoichi in the gambling house is pretty good. But for an all time classic you either have to go for the Black Knight in the Holy Grail or the Play in The Addams Family.

      • Karen 8:43 pm on July 27, 2010 Permalink | Reply

        Once again, you answer around my question, Dear. 🙂

    • John 8:46 pm on July 27, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      I am just answering the question which you meant to ask, not the one you actually did. Like when you asked me if I was OK, when in fact you should have asked me if I were a complete nut-job.

      • Karen 8:48 pm on July 27, 2010 Permalink | Reply

        If you know what I am thinking, why aren’t you going to the grocery store and buying me Double-Stuf Oreos?

    • John 8:53 pm on July 27, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      Because I also know what you will do with them:
      http://nozama.typepad.com/.a/6a00e54ed05fc2883301053714a9b3970b-pi

      • Karen 8:54 pm on July 27, 2010 Permalink | Reply

        A girl can dream…

      • Lisa 8:13 pm on August 1, 2010 Permalink | Reply

        Nice!! 😀 I can see Karen definitely doing that…me too! And I agree with you John…the Black Knight in the Holy Grail is quite the classic!

        Another movie that had quite a lot of violence that comes to mind is the “Reservoir Dogs.”

    • Jon 7:58 pm on August 2, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      Even better than Scarface:

  • Karen 9:49 am on July 21, 2010 Permalink | Reply  

    The Numbers Game 

    ESPN got me into this line of thinking.  There was a story about Chris Johnson, running back for the Tennessee Titans.  (An American football team for our international readers.)  They were discussing how he was on a trend to align himself with Earl Campbell and Eric Dickerson based on a comparison of all three of their stats at the same point in their respective careers.  As far as running backs go, this is great company.

    However, the story is basically inane drivel.  How can you extrapolate a Hall-of-Fame career based on data from 2 seasons in the NFL?  What kind of team is giving him support?  How many knee injuries is he going to suffer?  Is he going to do something stupid off-field to compromise his NFL career?   Or will he channel the powers of Brett Favre and have to leave the NFL with record-breaking stats and a stake through his heart?  Don’t know, do we?

    Of course, where I am going with this is the tangible versus the intangible.  Have we come to a point where we weigh the tangible (statistics and facts) over the intangible (unknown factors that can’t be measured)?  I don’t mean just in sports.  I mean in an industrialized society.

    Which leads me to another example…university degrees.  Let’s say some corporate weenies, unlike my dear husband :),  read articles about how getting an MBA leads to a significant salary increase.  Based upon this publicized information, more people decide to go back to school to get their MBAs.  Now the MBA pool is watered down, and these new graduates are not getting the salaries they expected.  Of course, they don’t.  The numbers they read were based on HISTORY, but they automatically assume that the same trend will continue even with more MBA graduates coming into the workforce.

    And these are the people who want to work in business but do not know how to interpret data.  No wonder we are having the problems that we do.*

    This is not confined to MBA degrees either.  I have a question for those who attended university.  How many classmates did you have that did not belong there at the time but were sold the idea that college was a step they had to take to make a good living?  There are so many teens who need time in the workforce or doing something else before college.  There are some who should never go to college at all.  But there they are.  I think part of the reason is the perception that career earnings/quality of life is directly correlated to the degree.  Unfortunately, the analysis stops there.  The tangible wins over the intangible, and I truly wonder why, considering I live in the intangible side and would not know how to play with Excel to save my life.  Anybody else have a clue?

    *I opted for the liberal arts major, so I knew my bachelor’s was going to be worthless anyway.  But I am such a well-rounded person now.  🙂

     
    • The English Little Sister. 11:01 am on July 21, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      I totally get your point about the graduates. It really cheeses me off that going to University, that was once considered a mark of success became a right of passage for so many of my contemporaries. Rather than going to university because they wanted to better themselves, and their opportunities in life, they went to university because it was an excuse to stay drunk and have no responsibility for 3 years, and the government gave them a loan to do it with. So they all graduated, flooded the market and the good graduate jobs were fiercely competed for, and started paying peanuts – because they could! It’s the nature of economics- if something isn’t scarce any more, the price drops.

      Due to my parents being old farts, I wasn’t allowed to consider doing a liberal arts subject at university. I have no idea to this day how one of my siblings was able to sneak “Media Studies” under their liberal arts radar. What I would love to have done is an arts-based degree, or maybe something vocational with a trade (plumber, electrician, joiner) because that’s where my talents lie. I am much better at doing things with my hands than I am at reading books and writing cogent arguments, and citing references. Whilst my degree subject (linguistics) fascinated me, you never see an advert for “Linguist Wanted”. I sometimes wish I hadn’t been academically capable enough to go to uni so I was forced to do something else. Instead I am left with the feeling that I have “wasted my life”.

      I do know how to do some things with Excel, but I leave the hardcore Excel geekery to my husband who has to do it at work. 😉

      I often wonder that if I knew where I would be in my life now, and how much relevance to a degree in Linguistics my career has had (please read sweet FA) whether I’d do a degree at all. I think I probably would, if only to prove that a girl working in a shop, or as I am now, a stay-at-home-Mum, shouldn’t automatically be labelled as intellectually inferior. I remember a wise person telling me when I met my then 11-month-old niece for the first time, that being a parent tests every ounce of your intelligence, your creativity and your strength. She was right.

      What I probably wouldn’t saddle myself with is the £12k of debt I am now in that I haven’t a hope of ever paying off.

      I remember when I was a waitress (I was about 17), a vile family coming in one August and belittling me because I was clearly a “career waitress”. They were celebrating their son’s GCSE results (General Certificate of Secondary Education, exams sat at age 16). They treated me like absolute scum. I hated it. His parents made reference to me being thick in front of me! I decided to cost myself a tip, and asked what his results were. They were worse than mine had been, and I said it was “such a shame he missed out on the top grades, wasn’t it?”, and said which college I was off to in September. They looked embarrassed and had what’s known in England as a “face like a smacked arse” 😦 after that. They showed me a little more respect too. Not my finest hour, but frankly, it wasn’t theirs either!

      • Karen 1:43 pm on July 21, 2010 Permalink | Reply

        But how many of your classmates were groomed for that path, regardless of what they wanted? I am sure some of the loafers were just saying, “Fuck you,” to their families. Of course, I am sure there were plenty who used college as an excuse to party too.

        When you show academic aptitude, it is hard to persuade those around you that going a non-intellectual path is the best thing, especially when you are an insecure teen who does not know what she wants nor had the opportunity to explore her true talents. Learning who you are what you can do is never a wasted life, even if you have to make some huge mistakes along the way. At least, that is what I keep telling myself. 🙂

        To be honest, if John could do it over, he would have told your dad to piss off and read geology or botany. (There is a lot of Buller in him.) But he is keeping open the option of going back to school and doing what he really wants when there are less fiscal constraints. Translation…it’s never too late.

    • Kenny 2:36 pm on July 21, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      This is a really great topic, and I’m not just saying that because I have a chapter devoted to it in my book. In essence, I’m paraphrasing myself, but then, none who read this have ever read my book, so maybe I’m not, BUT, I remember absolutely NOT wanting to go to college out of high school, but not having a choice in the matter. My only choice was WHERE I was going, which ended up being Syracuse, as Syracuse had the #1 rated Communications School in the country (The Newhouse School Of Public Communications). Graduates from this school can (or could) pretty much write their own ticket when it comes to Broadcast Journalism. I wanted to be a baseball announcer, so when Syracuse put my in the Speech Communication major, I figured that was eventually going to get me into the real school. A couple of years later, and a year at Temple AS a communications major, I was still not allowed in this particular college, so the best way I found to keep fucking off and get the degree that was required was to switch to a major, on which, my talent would totally get me by …. so now, I’m Kenny Spaulding, BA Music, Syracuse University … as they say in New York, “That and $2.00 will get you a ride on the subway” … here’s the fucked up part: NOT given a choice as to whether or not to go to college, BUT I had to pay for it (and will be until about 2029) … builds character, I suppose, but as Harvey Keitel said in “Pulp Fiction”, “… because you ARE a character, does not mean that you HAVE character” …

      • Karen 7:01 pm on July 21, 2010 Permalink | Reply

        What were the conversations about college like in your house? How did your folks put their collective feet down?

    • Kenny 2:41 pm on July 21, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      What’s my point here? Education, as you guys were saying, is like so many other things. Scarcity breeds value! The more there are of something, the less that something is worth. It really isn’t our parents fault that so many of us were EXPECTED to go to college. When our parents were in their 20’s, a MUCH smaller percentage of kids went off to college, so of course there were jobs waiting with big fat fucking bows around them for anyone with a sheepskin … well, now EVERYONE has a sheep skin … making these degrees worth very little in comparison (in fact, I think they’re so cheap now that they’ve switched from sheep skin to latex, but at least it prevents the HIV virus!)
      I actually, and oddly enough, consider myself fortunate that I even have the little income that I do from my band, because at least I’m making SOMETHING to supplement my income from “my field” … the funny thing is that I may have gone to school for music, but I know LOADS more about baseball, and I have my job due to that knowledge … strange the roads we take to where we are, but as I am very fond of saying, whatever I’ve done, for better or worse, has led me to here … and so there are no regrets or laments!

    • Kenny 2:43 pm on July 21, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      I will say that, for an NFL running back, the career expectancy is extremely short … Earl Campbell only really had a few “Earl Campbell-like” years before the overwork murdered his career, and put him in a wheelchair before age 50, to boot! Just thought I’d throw that one in there, b/c I’m an ASSHOLE 🙂

      • Karen 6:59 pm on July 21, 2010 Permalink | Reply

        “I use public toilets and piss on the seat
        I walk around in the summertime saying, ‘How about this heat?’.”

  • Karen 10:07 am on July 20, 2010 Permalink | Reply  

    Jon and Kenny are gone. Hmmm…now is my chance to perform a coup de blog! Mwahahahaha!

     
  • Karen 6:32 pm on July 18, 2010 Permalink | Reply  

    What I Have Noticed on Vacation 

    The three of us just returned from a long weekend in Vermont with a day trip to Montreal thrown in.  Instead of posting pictures and describing in detail what we did (which I consider just as bad as inflicting a slide show on my friends), I just wanted to share some of my deeper thoughts and observations.  Take them for what they are.

    1.  Quebec needs Peruvians.  In the old city of Montreal, there was a busking trio playing traditional Peruvian folk music.  The only Peruvian in the band was the one playing the charango.  The other two guys were white and wearing long, dark wigs.  So if you happen to be a Peruvian musician and want to emigrate to Canada, there is a band who could use your expertise, at least to save money on wig grooming.

    2.  In keeping with the odd Caucasian street musician theme, I have a recommendation.  If you happen to be white, please do not perform, “Buffalo Soldier” in public, especially in a horrible Jamaican accent.  Listen to the song all you want.  Perform it in the privacy of your home.  Enjoy it for what it is, but for God’s sake, it is not your story to tell.  Don’t expect people to throw money into your guitar case because you think covering Bob Marley is cool.  You are only embarrassing yourself.

    3.  Even more on the embarrassment scale, gentlemen, grow your hair as long as you want.  Have it dragging on the ground behind you.  Just do not twist it up and put in a jaw clip.  Nor should you put it in a scunci.  I don’t care how much you are in touch with your feminine side or how many imaginary vaginas you have, you are sporting hairstyles that belong to women only!  A full beard and stache with a red jaw clip in your head is not an attractive look, trust me.

    4. Conversely, ladies, there is no good reason to pay $50 for a one ounce bottle of body lotion.  Just because something is “natural” and is being sold by a woman in Birkenstocks and hemp jewelry does not mean it instantly makes a good beauty product that is environmentally friendly.  You can use something at home at a fraction of the cost that is just as effective.

    And one more point…mercury is a natural substance.  I rest my case.

    5.  The urge to say, “Moo,” when driving pass a cow pasture turns into the urge to go, “Le Moux,” when crossing over the border into Quebec.  This is coupled with urge to sing, “Alouette”.

    6.  It is possible to sell maple syrup, guns, antiques, ice cream, and taxidermy services from the same shop.

    7.  5-year-olds find dogs more interesting than international travel.

    8.  5-year-olds are also placated by $8.00 buckets of popcorn with their favorite cartoon characters emblazoned on them.

    9.  “Beignes” is the French word for donuts.  “Café” is the French word for coffee.  Now you know enough French to be able to eat in Montreal, provided you only go to Tim Horton’s.  It’s easier than trying to eat poutine.

    Not an insignificant wealth of knowledge for 4 days away, isn’t it?

     
    • The English Little Sister. 6:45 pm on July 18, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      Looks like you had an educational trip!

      Making a mental note re popcorn and dogs.

  • Karen 9:57 am on July 14, 2010 Permalink | Reply  

    Room 101 – “American Woman” 

    For those of you who don’t know the literary reference, Room 101 is a torture chamber in the Ministry of Love where the victim is exposed to his/her worst nightmare in the book Nineteen Eighty-Four by our favorite life-of-the-party, George Orwell.  It is also the name of a British TV and radio show where celebrities discussed their pet peeves, and the host, whether Nick Hancock or Paul Merton, decided whether said abomination went down the chute into Room 101.  What is fun about the show is the arguments both sides present.  There are episodes on YouTube, in case you are interested.

    I thought it might be fun if one of the three of us could bring out our own nominations, and see if we can get the other two to agree send the item down the chute.  Of course, we welcome participation from our readers!  The only constraint I would put on it would be that we can’t do easy ones, like small, yappy dogs, Justin Bieber, or small, yappy dogs that look like Justin Bieber.  We have to stretch ourselves.

    So to get things started, I nominate the song, “American Woman,” by the Guess Who, later remade to sound even worse to me by Lenny Kravitz.  I admit this one was particular to me, and it involved the Canadian Air Force when I did a TDY (temporary duty assignment) in Italy.  To make a long story short, I managed to get into a debate with a Canadian airman (let’s call him Cam) about women in combat, and I basically subtly reversed Cam’s own argument by wearing him down point-by-point.  Cam’s buddies witnessed this and started to sing, “American woman, gonna mess your mind.”  It was funny at that moment, but…

    They drove the joke to the ground.  I must have heard that damn song sung or played at least 15 times a day, and I am not exaggerating.  I still spew venom when I hear this song, and this was 16 years ago.

    Another thing going against it is that most people take the damn song literally, and never bother to figure out that it is a song criticizing the US during the Vietnam era, and not a very good one at that.  To summarize the lyrics…

    America, go away.

    You are all image.

    You have problems.

    Fuck off.

    You suck.

    Fuck off again.

    That is some deep stuff there.  I guess Canada is too far away from South America to score the really good drugs.

    So that’s is the crux of my argument.  Any lovers of the song want to debate?

     
    • Kenny 1:30 pm on July 14, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      “What, Jim Morrison? He’s a drunken bafoon, posin’ as a poet! Ah give me the Guess Who. They have the COURAGE to be drunken bafoons, which makes them poetic!” Couldn’t resist spewing one of my favorite movie lines here.
      Actually, I like many of their songs, but A. Woman was never terribly high on my list … and as for Lenny Roker? Well, anything he touches, in my opinion, is bastardized, and therefore tarnished. Matter of fact, I’d say “You are all image” to HIM, but that’s just me … and we are perpetually establishing that the source of my statements is at least significantly “off”.

      • Karen 2:26 pm on July 14, 2010 Permalink | Reply

        So is that a “yes” that the song should be damned? I just want to clarify to avoid misunderstandings. 🙂

        Should I tell you again that I am serious about the blog?

        Oh, when I was telling you to consider the source of the “not strange” statement, I was referring to me, not you.

        Boy, we are reaching all sorts of limits with online communication today.

      • Kenny 3:28 pm on July 14, 2010 Permalink | Reply

        I’m certain we can push them further. Yeah, song be damned. Never particularly liked it to begin with …

    • Kenny 8:42 am on July 15, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      I’d like to nominate Lenny as well. Also, I’d like to throw in the following “musical artists”: Lady Gaga, Don Henley, Neil Young, Jewel (any other people from Canadia?), Billy Ray, Miley and any other Cyrus’s out there, and “boy band” ever invented from The Monkees all the way through to Big Time Rush, Disturbed, Men Without Penises, John Mayer (I know, I just repeated myself), Billy Joel after 1985, Peter Cetera after Terry Kath blew his head off, Lil Wayne, anybody else whose name begins with ‘Lil, perhaps excepting Lil Jon, Martina McBride, Kid Rock, (I know, some of these are obvious), any band that goes out of their way to sound like Pearl Jam, Jamie Foxx (you’re a good actor, dude, but don’t sing), Jessica Simpson and anyone who even remotely looks like her, any band/act/group that hasn’t had a decent song in over 20 years, Bryan Adams, ROD STEWART … and, what the hell, we’ll go with Sting as well, post Police, anyway … any kid from a hit Nickelodeon and/or Disney Channel show … Meranda, we like ICarly in my house, but that doesn’t mean we want to watch a video about your 14 year old ass singing about your love life … this ain’t Verona … which reminds me, any, ANY 14 year old singing about love, B.J. Thomas and anyone else who could never write a song for themselves, any active rapper/hip hop artist that is not Mos Def, Talib Kweli, The Roots, or DEAD! I seem to have contradicted myself, but we all know that every two years or so, a new lost track comes out by 2Pac or Biggie, so in a sense, they’re still active. I have about a billion more, but I’ll just finish by saying EVERYONE FROM FUCKING AMERICAN IDOL!

      • Karen 7:41 pm on July 18, 2010 Permalink | Reply

        The point of Room 101 is to make an entertaining argument. Just listing people you want to shove in isn’t enough. Even if it is obvious why they should be in, the fun is in the justification.

        I mean, ragging on John Mayer is worth a post, isn’t it? Especially if you include the pictures of him in the Borat swimsuit.

  • Karen 9:01 am on July 12, 2010 Permalink | Reply  

    Your Kindly, Neighborhood Loner 

    I have been thinking a lot about friendship lately…how some people define it rather loosely (a Facebook definition), and others have strict standards about who is considered a friend. Some people use gray area modifiers to describe their relationships (work buddy, acquaintance, best friend, booty call), and others have a hard set friend-or-foe view of the world.

    I fall into the stricter standards category.  There are pluses and minuses to this.  The pluses are that I weeded out the fluff people in my life, so the people who are left are quite tolerant of my antics and weirdness.  Some even actually enjoy them.  I know these people truly care about me, and there is actual depth to our relationships.

    The down side, they are scattered over the world, so I rarely get to actually see them.  This is the main reason I spend so much damn time on the computer.  It’s the best way to stay connected with them, but I don’t get to have parties, go on any nights out, or take turns babysitting kids to have date nights with my husband.  But I don’t have to deal with self-created dramas and conversations about the greatness of the vapid movie of the minute either.

    I admit I am in a bit of a conundrum.  Right now, I long to have more people physically present in my life, but when I have the opportunity to meet people, I manage to put them off just by being myself.  Or I suppress 75% of my natural personality to get along with people, only to find the social experience hollow.  Small talk is boring, and talking about deeper issues usually leaves the average person dwelling on insignificant details because they can’t see the bigger picture.

    Friendship does not come instantly for me.  I get that.  Being an acquired taste means I have to gradually give them small sips of my eccentricities until they develop the immunity to withstand my conversations about my imaginary penis.  It’s trying to find people who have their own set of pretend genitalia that is so difficult because most people care about how others perceive them.  They have to maintain an image for work or family or the temple or whatever.

    Meanwhile, there is me.  I don’t have the constraints of the outside world as much as others do.  The older I am getting, the larger the holes in the bizarre filter.  I should be fun when I am 80.  I fully plan on dancing down the pet food aisle in the grocery store (as best as I can with my hip replacements) singing, “Me So Horny”.  I hope somebody films it and posts it on YouTube, along with my funeral when I am blown up.

    So, here I sit with my laptop, spouting some the garbage that is in my head, and just hoping some of it sticks to the gray matter in others, and get a reaction that way.  Until I can find my own environment, that is the best I can ask for.  🙂

     
    • Kenny 11:32 am on July 12, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      Karen, you have spoken for many of the intellectually-superior misanthropes out there. And if her post has offended you, you are one of the people for whom Karen feels she has to “dull herself” down. For this, and pretty much no other, reason, I kind of miss high school and college. I guess it depends on the profession, as I’ve not worked at really intellectual jobs, but I will say that I do not get anything remotely close to challenging and inspiring conversation these days. And people wonder why the only place I can seem to hold conversations is at the bar … and after WAY too many drinks. I need them to get down to a “human” level. I simply cannot sit and chew the proverbial fat … life is just too short to waste my time talking with someone whose deepest thought runs concurrent with the lyrics of the latest Lady Gaga song. And people wonder why I drink so much and so often … that is my way of suppressing 75% of my natural personality … and even then, I tend to be a boistrous individual … just one that can relate with others.
      I will say that is one of the reasons that I like facebook. I can still have semi-intelligent discourse. Hell, I consider Karen and Jon to be two of my closer friends, and I haven’t seen either one of them in almost 20 years. I could literally see someone for 5 hours a day every day and not give two shits about them. That’s probably pretty strange …

      • Karen 11:34 am on July 13, 2010 Permalink | Reply

        No, not strange…but consider the source of that statement. 🙂

        I used to drink quite a bit to help blend myself in. Military culture absolutely promotes that kind of behavior, especially if you were in the same dorm as the cops. (It’s important to have friends in authority who will look the other way.)

        Therapy and being on antidepressants has forced moderation upon me…for the better. I am proof that you don’t lose your soul and personality on psychiatric drugs. The down side is that you become even more aware of how stupid people are, including yourself in that mix too. Yet another couple of obstacles in the making of friends.

        No wonder I only have a few close friends. Who the hell wants to do the decathlon to make a friend when you can just drive to Wal-Mart? You don’t get the quality, but what you get works in a pinch.

    • Lisa 12:01 pm on July 12, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      You bring up some extremely good points here Karen. I too, am not one to make friends easily. I have a silly sense of humor, sometimes a little too silly, and find out of the ordinary things amusing.

      Not really sure if this is just me today, but it brings up my husband Keith. I really love him, but there are times when he will roll his eyes at something I say or if I laugh at something a little too long, or act a little silly, or just be me, I find that he finds me to be annoying. It isn’t all the time, but I will catch him, and it’s funny how it actually hurts my feelings. The one person who is supposed to love everything about you seems to be annoyed by the things that make you, you.

      I have a great, best friend who loved pretty much everything about me. Unfortunately we parted ways a long time ago. He came back into my life and I could be myself with him as we chatted for a year and a half. Due to a jealous wife, and the FB world, I have absolutely no contact with him anymore.

      I’m quirky, nerdy, have many goals in life, but for some reason, I will make friends, only to find that a month or two later they find some reason to not want to chat, or make time. My computer is my connection to many friends that I had left when I moved out of Bethlehem and moved away to start a new life. Most of my “friends” in my area here are my husband’s friends.

      I do have to say, making new friends is difficult unless you find someone that is like you. When that happens, those are the ones that you can consider “friends.” I need to see this video of you on YouTube…and hope that I’m dancing behind you :D.

      • Karen 11:25 am on July 13, 2010 Permalink | Reply

        Well, to be fair, our spouses have to live with us. John annoys me sometimes, usually by doing the things that I found endearing when I first met him. I know I drive John nuts too. It’s a case of overexposure, and I just see that as part of the ride that is marriage. As John has said to me, “You are not easy, Karen, but you are worth it.” I’d like to think Keith feels the same way about you. 🙂

        I have learned not to take people fading away personally. Most of time, it has nothing to do with what you did, but they usually just don’t have time to cultivate any new friendships. It sucks for people like us, but that is modern reality.

        I notice the people with the boatload of friends are usually in an area for eons, whether they stay in their hometown/college town or just settled down. Since my hubby and I have been nomadic, we usually just get to the point of having a social life and then have to move. Not good for trying to have people physically present.

        Would you prefer to dance at the Ac-a-me or Genaurdi’s?

        • Lisa 4:22 pm on July 13, 2010 Permalink

          We can dance at both the Ac-a-me and Genaurdi’s…and “I’m too Sexy” could be our next selection after “Me So Horny”

          Keith does feel the same way. It is our little quirks, both his and mine, that keep us together. I know he pretty much is my best friend and can count on him to always be my friend. 😀

    • The English Little Sister. 1:21 pm on July 12, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      I hear you. Loud and clear. I had a set of friends who I thought were good friends and I could be myself around… until I became depressed. They knew I suffered from depression, but when I started acting a little strangely (not wanting to go out, being non-committal about things), they culled me without so much as a backward glance. Unfortunately, their kids were also socialising buddies for my son. Suddenly I have gone from having friends who I can go out and have fun with to having nobody local like that at all – through no fault of his own, so has my poor boy. Most of my friends now live in my computer. I am lucky to consider myself part of an online community who all probably know me better than anyone in real life bar my husband.

      I can make stupid jokes about random things, and we can giggle like schoolchildren about things that are only funny to both of us (footballer diving set to the superman music actually made us cry once. Looking back it wasn’t even that funny). I can also hone my grammar-nazi skills, and cook up plans for a local militant wing of the Apostrophe Protection Society… The only other set of people I can be “me” with are at the other end of some fibre-optic cable. But is this enough to sustain a person?

      Socially, I have always felt like the odd one out – I never used to have the playdates that other kids had at school, because from age 5, my parents thought it would be “good for me” to walk to school on my own (not as cruel or dangerous as it sounds – I could get there without crossing any roads, and it was less than a quarter of a mile away). So all of the playground gossip, chit-chat, and fun things to do were always cooked up in the absence of my Mum, and my social life suffered. I was always viewed as the outsider – I wanted to go to the parties but never got invited because of my lack of parent. I am so determined not to do this to my own offspring, but it seems like I already have because of a stupid chemical imbalance in my brain.

      Part of my university dissertation was on social interactions and the modifications that people make to their behaviour. It’s Tajfel’s theory of similarity attraction – the more alike you are to another person, the more likely they are to like you. So maybe we should just let it all hang out – lunacy and all – and the people we alienate and think we are weird will fall away, but who knows, we might just attract more people who think we are ridiculously cool and fun to be around.

      See you at the asylum then, yeah? I hope they have internet connections there…

      • Karen 11:13 am on July 13, 2010 Permalink | Reply

        I totally understand your situation. I was saving mental illness cooties for another blog post, but I will say this. The hardest part about living with a depressive mind with me is the impact it has on your brother and your niece. Since we don’t live in a neighborhood with kids her age to play with, it is isolating for Mads. That’s why we have kept her in her school’s summer program, so, Little Miss can play with her friends, and I can have some breathing room.

        Her best friends moved away to Maine last year (along with my closest friend in the area), and we are just starting to get our bearings again. We did get together for a playdate with one of her old toddler playgroup friends and her little sister, which went well. I suspect their mother has an imaginary penis too, but I can’t confirm at this point. 🙂 So, there is hope, but it is just a hard slog. xoxo

        So will you be dancing to “Me So Horny” in Sainsbury’s?

        • The English Little Sister. 3:59 pm on July 13, 2010 Permalink

          Hell yeah, with a side order of Baby Got Back. By then I expect I will have Sides and Front too… 😉

      • Kenny 8:27 am on July 14, 2010 Permalink | Reply

        This has become quite the discussion! I will say this, Karen. You never know what good or bad can come from having other kids around for your child, or being (or not being) in a neighborhood with other kids. I was the proverbial “runt” of my neighborhood growing up, got harrassed on a daily/weekly/monthy/yearly basis, and I believe it to be THE main reason for my “anger management concerns” … but you never really know. No matter what happens with your children, no matter your intent, things will go right and things will go wrong. You love your daughter and do your best, and that is the best that any of us can hope for. Sorry, went off on a little bit of a tangent there. I do that sometimes.
        As far as friends are concerned, I spent 6 years (2001-2007) running a bar and really thought I had like 400 friends from that world. I worked there at night, about 55 hours a week, and my time off was always spent with my son, so I really didn’t have any friends in the “outside world” … I came to find out that none of those people were my real friends … something I had suspected about 90% of them, but not 100% … honestly, for me it was pretty much easy come, easy go. For the most part, friends will come in and out of your life like store clerks. If we’re lucky, we have a few real ones that we can count on.

  • Karen 11:25 am on July 5, 2010 Permalink | Reply  

    OK, opinions needed. Chris Rock described the song, “Livin’ La Vida Loca,” as the equivalent of “Whoomp! (There It Is!)” for Puerto Ricans. I wonder what the equivalent would be for white people. My vote goes to “Song 2” by Blur. Any other ideas?

     
    • Kenny 11:29 am on July 5, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      Is that the “whoo hoo” song? If so, then I’d say that’d be a good pick, at least for younger adult whites … sad to say, about 10 years ago, I’d have said either “Smooth” Rob Thomas/Santana or “Cowboy” Kid Rock … yeah, I know …

    • Kenny 11:35 am on July 5, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      Actually, when I think of a white equivalent for “Whoomp!”, I think I’d go with Gary Glitter, “Rock and Roll, Part 2”, thoughts? Maybe I’m thinking of sporting event type stuff …

    • Karen 11:36 am on July 5, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      Yep, it’s the “whoo hoo” song. I see it as qualifying since it is one of those “let’s make the crowd get up and party in an artificial way” tunes.

    • Karen 11:36 am on July 5, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      Would “Livin’ La Vida Loca” work in a sporting event?

      • Kenny 1:48 pm on July 5, 2010 Permalink | Reply

        If it did, it would probably have been one of those NY Yankees ground crew songs during the 7th inning stretch!

    • Karen 7:54 am on July 6, 2010 Permalink | Reply

      Hey, where’s Trex Mix? I bet he would nominate an Insane Clown Posse song.

      • Kenny 3:36 pm on July 6, 2010 Permalink | Reply

        Well, shit. If we were to pick songs/bands we like …

      • Jon 9:58 pm on July 7, 2010 Permalink | Reply

        I’d have to say that Chumbawumbah song.

        • Jon 10:06 pm on July 7, 2010 Permalink

          My alternate vote would go to this:

        • Kenny 3:32 pm on July 8, 2010 Permalink

          Chumbawumbah song is a good one … definitely the Irish American Whoomp! Good one, Hood!

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